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Illuminazione marino Per parlare di come illuminare l'acquario marino, tipi di lampade, combinazioni, qualità e quantità della luce.

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Old 20-09-2011, 20:16   #1
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Come fareste una plafoniera a led da 700 watt?

Ciao a tutti,

sto progettando una plafoniera a led da circa 700 watt. Vasca da illuminare 1000 litri netti circa... misure: 170x100x80h. Dsb + 120 kg rocce vive.

Vorrei allevare sps, lps, molli e tridacne creando zone separate di barriera, tipo mini atolli sottomarini. Ora a prescindere dalla scuola di pensiero sull'uso o meno dei led per tali animali, mi piacerebbe raccogliere le vostre idee su come costruirla, quali led, il wattaggio dei vari led, il computer luci, ecc, ecc insomma come metterla assieme con i vari pezzi...




Ringrazio anticipatamente tutti coloro che vorranno aiutarmi.


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Old 20-09-2011, 20:21   #2
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ciao
le opzioni sono 2 o 3
led da 3W
led da 10W
led da 20W

essendo da 80 con lenti al massimo da 80°
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Old 20-09-2011, 22:16   #3
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io andrei sui 10 w che sono una via di mezzo ... sarebbero quindi 70 led da posizionare .. sarebbe poi da capire quanti blu andrebbero
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Io partirei scegliendo i led.... Vista la quantità di led da usare chiedo vale la pena prendere i multichip dalle caratteristiche incerte oppure consigliate di andare sui cree XM-L T6 per poi tagliare con royal blue??
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Old 21-09-2011, 12:05   #5
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Vaaaii vai... consigli consigli!

Ho trovato un'azienda che è disponibile a fare barre dissipatrici custom anche 1 pezzo.

Quale è la più indicata per voi ragazzi?

http://www.omar-alluminio.it/

Che ne dite di un unica barra dissipatrice da 150 x 60? O giù di li... magari di quelle con fondo piatto e le alette convesse, fatta colorare in blu acqua...

Siccome eseguono anche il servizio foratura custom... quanti e quali fori; come disporre le file di led? Ovviamente se troviamo dei pcb adatti tutti sti fori non servono più...

Grazieeeeee
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Io partirei scegliendo i led.... Vista la quantità di led da usare chiedo vale la pena prendere i multichip dalle caratteristiche incerte oppure consigliate di andare sui cree XM-L T6 per poi tagliare con royal blue??
Vai M... info info... spremiamo il forum!

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Old 21-09-2011, 12:10   #6
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..cerchiamo di individuare che led montare ossia marca modello numero e da dove acquistare poi si pensa al contorno.. Gli xm-l t6 della cree servirebbero con codice bin 0A ma dove li troviamo??
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Originally Posted by Kj822001 View Post
..cerchiamo di individuare che led montare ossia marca modello numero e da dove acquistare poi si pensa al contorno.. Gli xm-l t6 della cree servirebbero con codice bin 0A ma dove li troviamo??

Sono questi?

http://www.led-tech.de/en/High-Power...1_120_170.html


http://www.ledrise.com/leds/high-pow...FQUYzQod2Q4OHQ


http://it.farnell.com/jsp/search/pro...892512,1892513
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..cerchiamo di individuare che led montare ossia marca modello numero e da dove acquistare poi si pensa al contorno.. Gli xm-l t6 della cree servirebbero con codice bin 0A ma dove li troviamo??
cosa vuol dire codice BIN 0A? Zero ampere?

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Old 21-09-2011, 14:24   #8
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Ho capito... si deve cercare il codice prodotto finale con t55051... almeno credo.
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STANDARD ORDER CODES AND BINS (XM-L ANSI COOL WHITE)
XLamp XM-L LED Standard Order Codes - White
Min. Luminous
Flux (lm)
@ 700 mA* Chromaticity Regions Kit Number
Group Flux (lm)
ANSI Cool White (5000 K – 8300 K)
T5 260
0A, 0B, 0C, 0D, 0R, 0S, 0T, 0U, 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, 1R, 1S, 1T, 1U, 2A, 2B, 2C, 2D, 2R, 2S, 2T, 2U, 3A, 3B, 3R, 3S 0000T5051
1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, 1R, 1S, 1T, 1U, 2A, 2B, 2C, 2D, 2R, 2S, 2T, 3A, 3B, 3S 0000T5053
1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, 2A, 2B, 2C, 2D 0000T5050
T6 280
0A, 0B, 0C, 0D, 0R, 0S, 0T, 0U, 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, 1R, 1S, 1T, 1U, 2A, 2B, 2C, 2D, 2R, 2S, 2T, 2U, 3A, 3B, 3R, 3S 0000T6051
1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, 1R, 1S, 1T, 1U, 2A, 2B, 2C, 2D, 2R, 2S, 2T, 3A, 3B, 3S 0000T6053
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..cerchiamo di individuare che led montare ossia marca modello numero e da dove acquistare poi si pensa al contorno.. Gli xm-l t6 della cree servirebbero con codice bin 0A ma dove li troviamo??
Mi pare sia questo da led-tech.de dalle specifiche:


Part Number: LT31
CREE XM-L T6 Emitter
Cree XMLAWT-0000T6051

Viewing Angle: 125°
Height: 3.02mm
Width: 5.00mm
Depth: 5.00mm
Emitting Color: white
Lumen min.: 280
Lumen max.: 975
Kelvin min.: 5700
Kelvin max.: 6100
mA test.: 700 mA
mA typ.: 700 mA
mA max.: 3000 mA
V typ.: 2.9 V
V max.: 4 V
Reverse Voltage: 5 V
Watt: 2,03 W

Datasheet: Click here!
Binning & Labeling: Click here!


The new Cree XLamp XM-L in T6 top rank!

The XLamp XM-L LED is the industry’s highest performance, single-die white lighting-class LED. XLamp XM-L is 20% more efficient than XLamp XP-G at the same current, and can deliver 1000 lumens with 100 lumens per Watt efficacy. The XLamp XM-L LED offers Cree’s industry-leading features: wide viewing angle, symmetrical package, unlimited floor life and electrically neutral thermal path.

XLamp XM-L LEDs can enable LED light into new applications that require tens of thousands of lumens, such as high bay and high-output area lighting. XM-L is also the ideal choice for lighting applications where high light output and maximum efficacy are required, such as LED light bulbs, outdoor lighting, portable lighting, indoor lighting and solar-powered lighting.
Successful usage of high power LEDs:

Heat management

Applications with high power LEDs need enduring, adequate and plane heat conduction from the first moment of use. It is very important and neccessary to get the heat off the devices to ensure the maximum light output, lifetime and efficiancy.

Drive management

LEDs should be run with a constant current in addition to the manufacturers recommendations. To ensure this we recommend to take constant current power supplies because resistors are always a risk factor in high power LED applications.

EMC protection

LEDs are sensitive against heat and electric charge. Please avoid any kind of short circuits or electric discharge to the illuminant. The chip can be damaged or even destroyed.

Storage / JEDEC level

The storage temperature should be from °C up to + 80°C in dry ambience. After opening a sealed bag the content should be mounted rapidly. Once absorbed humidity can be removed by tempering the LEDs in some cases. More information can be found in the manufacturers datasheets or on the manufacturer homepages.

Soldering conditions

Each LED has its own soldering conditions that the user should pay attention to. After the launched lead free processing specifications many standarts have changed. Information about recommended soldering can be found in the manufacturers datasheets or on the manufacturer homepages.




Resistor for 5V-Betrieb: 3 Ohm / 1.47 W
Resistor for 9V-Betrieb: 9 Ohm / 4.27 W
Resistor for 12V-Betrieb: 13 Ohm / 6.37 W
Resistor for 14V-Betrieb: 16 Ohm / 7.77 W

individual resistor calculation

individual resistor calculation



Quantity Price per pcs.
1 - 99 6,90 €
ab 100 Special price
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C'è qualche PCB che va bene con i suddetti LED?

http://www.led-tech.de/en/High-Power...c_120_117.html
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http://www.dotlight.de/products/it/L...-Star-PCB.html

Che differenza c' tra questi e quelli senza la star pcb? Con questa soluzione si evita l'intrico di cavi? Poi vedo che si suggerisce l'uso di un dispositivo tipo questo:







High-power constant-current source KONLUX DC 3000mA



Attendo sempre impressioni dagli esperti...
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