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Tony Vargas
14-09-2011, 14:17
The other night Boomer William Wing took me to visit Matthew Pedersen and his breeding facility. The most exciting part of the visit was observing the Lightning Clownfish with its new mate moving rocks around the aquarium and cleaning a location for egg lying.

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/VargasReef/IMG_3804-AWM.jpg

dimaurogiovanni
14-09-2011, 14:37
thank tony,Beautiful clown,You know I love this fish!

Benny
14-09-2011, 14:40
.......:#O

Kj822001
14-09-2011, 14:45
Wow with red eye like a devil...

Lorenzo56
14-09-2011, 14:48
I've never seen anything like that before. :#O
Wonderful photo, Tony. Well done.

Daniel-T
14-09-2011, 15:19
#24

Paolo Piccinelli
14-09-2011, 16:14
Beautiful specimen, really impressive, but... I do not approve nature's manipulation. #13

As aquarists, we already force nature into 5 pieces of glass.
I don't like playing with genetics, also when the results are so pleasant for human eyes.

IMVHO, of course! :-)

geribg
14-09-2011, 16:59
very nice clownfish

ZON
14-09-2011, 17:02
e' un po come per i discus Paolo...la prima volta che vedetti un Pidgeon blood ci rimasi cosi' : :#O

ALGRANATI
14-09-2011, 17:59
Sinceramente non capisco e non approvo queste nuove specie di pesci creati in casa .........sono animali che non hanno senso di esistere.

lupo.alberto
14-09-2011, 18:28
Sinceramente non capisco e non approvo queste nuove specie di pesci creati in casa .........sono animali che non hanno senso di esistere.

anch'io......#26#26#26

cicala
14-09-2011, 18:40
bello , ma già che c'erano potevano farlo che non defecava così meno fosfati.................

Stefano G.
14-09-2011, 19:36
Sinceramente non capisco e non approvo queste nuove specie di pesci creati in casa .........sono animali che non hanno senso di esistere.
quoto #25

Tony Vargas
14-09-2011, 19:54
Sinceramente non capisco e non approvo queste nuove specie di pesci creati in casa .........sono animali che non hanno senso di esistere.
quoto #25

You don't understand, this fish was found in the wild with these patterns and markings in Papua New Guinea.

Tu non capisci, questo pesce è stato trovato nel selvaggio con questi schemi e marcature in Papua Nuova Guinea.

Stefano G.
14-09-2011, 19:59
Sinceramente non capisco e non approvo queste nuove specie di pesci creati in casa .........sono animali che non hanno senso di esistere.
quoto #25

You don't understand, this fish was found in the wild with these patterns and markings in Papua New Guinea.

Tu non capisci, questo pesce è stato trovato nel selvaggio con questi schemi e marcature in Papua Nuova Guinea.
una nuova colorazione naturale di premnas #24

claudiomarze
14-09-2011, 20:46
wtf. this fish just drive me crazy...

english time!:-D looks like RC

Paolo Piccinelli
15-09-2011, 09:08
You don't understand, this fish was found in the wild

-05 ooops, in this case... it's awesome! :-))



I misunderstood when I read "breeding facility"
Boomer William Wing took me to visit Matthew Pedersen and his breeding facility

Now... I'm studying:

http://www.lightning-maroon-clownfish.com/
http://www.lightning-maroon-clownfish.com/?page_id=2

Aland
15-09-2011, 09:15
http://www.acquariofilia.biz/showthread.php?t=238736

L'avevo già aperta io sta discussione un anno e mezzo fa.

Allora ero un po più entusiasta, ma ora come ora penso che sia una cagata pazzesca.

Marco AP
15-09-2011, 09:22
http://www.acquariofilia.biz/showthread.php?t=238736

L'avevo già aperta io sta discussione un anno e mezzo fa.



E algranati ti rispose pure... :-D Matteo scrivi troppo e non ti ricordi quello che leggi! :-D

Paolo Piccinelli
15-09-2011, 09:39
Pesce a parte... è molto interessante la discussione sul numero minimo di riproduttori per mantenere inalterato il patrimonio genetico di una colonia/popolazione:

While this is all generalizations, here’s some interesting talking points:

•A minimal captive population size of 50, in equal sex ratios, randomly mating, will keep inbreeding at roughly 1%. At this population size, the total population will lose 1/4 of it’s genetic variations in 20 to 30 generations.
•An interesting aside to the first point, the number of individuals in a small population (let’s say 25) is roughly equivalent to the number of generations that population can exist while maintaining a reasonable level of “fitness” (so 25 generations if the total population is limited to 25 individuals in each generation, as well as the other stipulations of equal sex ratios and random matings).
•It is argued that 500 individuals is the minimum necessary to maintain a long term captive population that loses variations to genetic drift at a rate compensated for by new variations gained through mutation.
•The most interesting one I’ll quote verbatim – “the number of founders in a colony, so long as it is greater than about five individuals, is not nearly as important as the long-term maintenance size of the colony (Nei et al., 1975; Denniston, 1978). That is, a single bottleneck event followed by rapid growth to a large size, say 2Ne greater than 500, does relatively little damage, compared, that is, to a chronically small Ne.”. Or to try to paraphrase – a captive population started with only 5 individuals can still be enough (in a fish) to potentially establish a stable captive population, so long as that population is brought up to at least 500 breeding individuals in short order.
So what does that all mean? Well, for starters, it means that even with only 8 founding individuals, the captive population of Amphiprion mccullochi could be very stable and with us for a long time so long as the fish is actively bred by many people and it’s done in as few generations as possible.

ALGRANATI
16-09-2011, 12:52
http://www.acquariofilia.biz/showthread.php?t=238736

L'avevo già aperta io sta discussione un anno e mezzo fa.



E algranati ti rispose pure... :-D Matteo scrivi troppo e non ti ricordi quello che leggi! :-D



dici??
mi sembra che ho scritto esattamente come allora.......se è vero naturale è una figata.